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Any words in red are petroleum products or oil drillers, supporters. It starts below the yellow line.
Ok... What the hell is this crap all about?
They cry about fake fur made from oil products, check this corruption bs.
SIMILAR (HERE).
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They burn way more GASOLINE than the average people to check their sets. They claim to be environmentalist which aren't because they support the REPUBLICAN party also many of them wears SYNTHETIC COATS like normal people wear (standard coat). Majority of trappers I saw/see on their forums all wear MAN MADE COATS.
I don't drive cars nor wear fake fur nor real fur so I am far greener than those corrupted terrorists (sportsmen).
Many uses PVC for their sets. Many using conibears uses PLASTIC CONTAINERS and rarely use wooden boxes.
What trappers use to post on forums, post pictures and take pictures? Skin made cameras??? NOOOooooo.
PLASTIC made CAMERAS, COMPUTERS, KEYBOARD, MOUSE, PRINTER, SCANNER AND ELECTRONICS.
What do you think all that stuff comes from???? the good answer is/are PETROLEUM PRODUCTS !!!!!!!
Why the hell they cry about FAKE FUR when wearing them is the equivalent of excess driving to check their sets?
burning PETROLEUM products pollutes more than FAKE FURS. I bet that a weekly drive to bring the FAKE FURS to the stores for restocking compare to a daily of BURNING PETROLEUM GASOLINES to check their sets produces far more POLLUTION. Also those right wing nazi claim to deny that global warming is man-made then
WHY THE HELL THEY CRY ABOUT IT THEN IF THEY ARE TOO INBREEDED TO UNDERSTAND REALISM?

I am very sure some of the OIL from companies that some trappers work ends up in FAKE FUR coats. So why wont those idiots SHUT THE HELL UP? When they are no better and some of their PETROL OIL from the ones who works in OIL COMPANIES ends up in FAKE FURS?.
One study from 1979 states that the energy consumption for the production of one coat made out of fake fur was given with 120  MBtu , compared to 433 MBtu for trapped animals and 7,965 MBtu for animals raised in fur farms .
Workers exposed to dust created during fur processing have been shown to have reduced pulmonary function in direct proportion to their length of exposure. That isn't very green to me, they pour all sort of toxic chemicals to preserve real fur. That was rip from wikipedia btw.

Here is this idiotic prick inbred corrupted loser using Johnny Weir because he wears fur and then he drops the fur and wear the synthetic furs. Which is better because real furs is expensive, waste of money, burns far more OIL to exploit than fake furs. Those vintage inbred right wing religious zealots don't have a freaken clue because
Of big profits involving in furs.
I am very sure when environmentally friendly bio-plastic becomes common and bio-fake furs comes out trappers will not stop trapping as they claim there is no alternative to real furs. BUT if an alternative comes out they wont stop trapping because real furs brings a lot of money and profit.
NOTE those hillbillies name wont be masked because I want people to see who they are.
#1773912 - Yesterday at 03:20 PM Re: Anti's Don't have a clue!!!!!!! [ Re: dirthole1 ]
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So in other words use fake fur that takes petroleum and a lot more energy (i.e. the use of fossil fuels, dead palnts and animal) to make his costume critter lover correct? Huh seems to me a true hunter and or trapper is the true critter lover.
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#1775009 - Yesterday at 09:34 PM Re: Pro choice peta people? [ Re: MI beginer ]
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Registered: 01/26/10
Posts: 11
Loc: upper michigan, usa
I don't believe peta truelly represents animal rights for
starters. Trappers are true animal rights people. Our part
in nature, includes us being predators-population control
This topic, has a political ring to it, so I'll leave it at that, but pro choice peta, I dout it.
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So they are admiting they are savage and uncivil, predator do NOT hunt for profit they do for survival. Trapper does it for profit. There should be no place for trapping in today's society.
They say nothing about disease cause and famine cause by human overpopulation, mass extinction, resources depleation and deforestation that could be prevented if human population would be culled
Those human hugging idiots cries about abortion. There is nothing wrong with abortion, abortion is a tool to manage unwanted babies and accidental sex, incest, rape and endangerment of the mom's health. Fetus do not have rights, fetus are not human yet. So the governments, them and those stupid pro-life religious whacko should stop dictating and violating the woman's right for abortion.
Now prepare to laught AT trappers stupidity and they will POLLUTE the environment even MORE!!!!.
Some are agains't his idea. They burn far more oil than normal people, use plastic etc. What's next??
Throwing oil at people wearing fake fur, oil drips and contaminate the soils. No wonder why theres soo much
Arsenic, PCP, benzene and other toxic contaminants in the soil.
#1825270 - Yesterday at 09:56 PM PETA---TIME FOR AN OIL BATH!!
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Registered: 01/10/07
Posts: 2043
Loc: Iowa (where the tall corn grow...
I don't normally advocate violence,but I do believe in fighting fire with fire. After PETA's latest threat to douse the Olympic skater that wore fur with their fake blood ritual maybe its time we stake them out and splash them with crude oil. After all faux fur is a petroleum based by-product which will take thousands of years to break down in our land fills, contaminating our ground water sources as it does so.......When the next generation is hard pressed to find adequate drinking water they can thank PETA in part for the problem. Maybe if we could get some courageous trappers to contact the media and set up a PETA oil bath, the public won't be able to avoid the truth!! I hate the thought of stooping to their level but by God it may be the only way we can inevitably retain what is right!
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#1825282 - Yesterday at 10:02 PM Re: PETA---TIME FOR AN OIL BATH!! [ Re: Dave Plueger ]
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Loc: Northern Maine.
It does get sickning.
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#1825284 - Yesterday at 10:02 PM Re: PETA---TIME FOR AN OIL BATH!! [ Re: Dave Plueger ]
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Loc: Frazee Mn
I can relate to your feeling toward their rude behavior but would we not be lowering ourselves to their level by doing so??
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#1825354 - Yesterday at 10:30 PM Re: PETA---TIME FOR AN OIL BATH!! [ Re: s**********n ]
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Registered: 01/10/07
Posts: 2043
Loc: Iowa (where the tall corn grow...
Originally Posted By: s**********n
I can relate to your feeling toward their rude behavior but would we not be lowering ourselves to their level by doing so??


As I said I HATE the thought of stooping to their level. But they continue to sway people with their antics on a daily basis. Fighting fire with fire to expose the TRUTH may some day become our last resort. Hopefully when we do it isn't too late!!
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#1825355 - Yesterday at 10:30 PM Re: PETA---TIME FOR AN OIL BATH!! [ Re: s**********n ]
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Registered: 09/08/09
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Loc: fort ashby wv
I agree Dave. I hate to say it but it will more than likely come down to violence against the idiots, one of these days.
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#1825374 - Yesterday at 10:37 PM Re: PETA---TIME FOR AN OIL BATH!! [ Re: mountain state ]
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Registered: 11/24/09
Posts: 99
Loc: Frazee Mn
Dave, one more comment on this issue. I have always believed it is far better to be proactive than reactive . Not saying I would not watch the oilbath if it were to happen. Don
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#1825376 - Yesterday at 10:38 PM Re: PETA---TIME FOR AN OIL BATH!! [ Re: mountain state ]
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Registered: 12/25/06
Posts: 8093
Loc: Oregon
I'm not too sure they sway too many people with their antics, if any thing they turn some people away. Now the H$U$ is a different story.

I'm just surprised there hasn't been any violence. I know if one of them spray painted or dumped fake blood on my wife because she was wearing a fur coat there certainly would be.
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#1825452 - Yesterday at 11:28 PM Re: PETA---TIME FOR AN OIL BATH!! [ Re: O*e H*****e ]
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Calvin
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Loc: South metro, MN
I can stoop pretty low. No issues here.
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#1825455 - Yesterday at 11:31 PM Re: PETA---TIME FOR AN OIL BATH!! [ Re: C****n ]
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Registered: 06/30/09
Posts: 43
Loc: wisconsin
yeh I'm in how much oil should I bing.LOL
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Trapper cries about AR using petroleum, look they use far more than average person even faux fur wearers. He say screw the old fashion way to dip traps and he uses petroleum based dips and even use spray paint which is I bet the petroleum based paints.
#1262980 - 03/19/09 08:34 AM Re: Trap Dye preference? [ Re: F******d T*****r ]
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Registered: 12/25/06
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screw tradition smile

cold dips for me ... F1 water base and various petroleum based dips

some large conis get spray painted

works for me grin
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#1263550 - 03/19/09 03:49 PM Re: Trap Dye preference? [ Re: p****m s*****r ]
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Farmland Trapper
Registered: 03/01/09
Posts: 166
Loc: Central Iowa
Originally Posted By: p****m s*****r

screw tradition smile

some large conis get spray painted


Doesn't your conibear paint get skinned up during the season?
Land or water conibears?
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This corrupted moron uses trap waxes which is petroleum based product . I bet when they put the coni submerged in water the waxed petro-based goes in the water and contaminate the waters, no wonder why the rivers are soo polluted and it effects certain animal reproduction system.
#1447167 - 08/08/09 07:40 AM Re: How do I... [ Re: d***h ]
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Bismuth Boy
Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 786
Loc: Northwest PA
I use Ron Marsh's method of the double boiler. Definitely not the fastest way but the safest way when using open flame. I do it on the side burner of my barbeque grill. This method never lets the dirt/wax combination get above 212 degrees, therefore eliminating any chance of either the wax catching fire or burning the dirt. It's not the fastest method but it allows me to do other things while I cook up a batch. Just mix every once in a while.

I also use the double boiler method for waxing traps.

Remember, wax is petroleum based and is very flammable. Use caution whenever you are using wax around an open flame. Temperature control is the key.
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Look at this walking feces idolizing that idiotic ignorant Sarah Palin who gave Republican very bad names and causing them not to win. I'm not a right-wing supporter but I'm realistic here. Check out this human hugging Christian wacko insulting the good people. Why the hell trappers cries about Faux fur and petrol based things when they use lots of oil and even endorsing drilling in the ANWR? Simple they are corrupted and money hugging wackjobs with lack of brains. Trees, little trees, grasslands or no tree. It is not OK to drill in the ANWR.
#1855995 - 47 minutes 30 seconds ago Re: Very interesting living in Alaskan Arctic (ANWR) [ Re: nontypical ]
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nontypical, get his book, its a good one.

But as far as drilling in ANWR drill baby drill. If the greenie wacko's posted what much of the area REALLY looks like 99% of Americans would say DRILL BABY DRILL. Instead they post pristine forests and moutnains with all kinds of animals, painting an image like there is a wild animal behind every TREE. What they fail to explain is that much of ANWR DOESN"T HAVE TREES.
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meadow 10 months ago

If only the side that synthetic materials use petroleum is considered you might think fur is green. But wild fur requires trappers check long trap lines and that requires a lot of fuel. Add up all the trappers doing it and you would be stunned. Plus fur is tanned in Asia so it has to be shipped around the world- more fossil fuel burned. Tanning is famous for how dirty and polluting it is. That's why its done in another country to get around environmental laws. After tanning it goes somewhere else there is cheap labor to make it into garments. Then shipped somewhere else to the retail market. NO WAY is fur green! I haven't even discussed how trapping disrupts local biomes with the loss of predators. Trapping stinks!

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Mongrel 1 year ago

Fur is green? How ridiculous! Apart from all the harsh chemicals the pelts are treated with and how the farming of these animals are harming the environment and causing needless suffering, has anyone considered this:

Do we wear fur everyday? Do I get up in the morning and take off my bear-fur pajamas, put on my chinchilla socks, get into my fox-trimmed panties and bra, put on my mink top and my raccoon dog pants? Do I do this year in and year out?

To say that fur is green must be one of the stupidest statements I've heard in a long time.

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ghost122 1 year ago

Fur is treated with a wide variety of poisonous chemicals which automatically precludes it being "green". This isn't even considering the cruelty and killing involved.

Susan Davis above has it exactly right.

And just saying something is "green" doesn't make it so.

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Laura Beth 1 year ago

In my view, taking fur from the animals who "bear it," is nothing less than stealing. Imagine the audacity, the arrogance required to assume that the creator of life gave animals fur for humans to steal???? It's an acculturated perversion of what is "normal" behavior. Perhaps if we had not assumed ownership over every inch of this earth, we would not need to have used the fur of other beings for survvial. The animals are SO much smarter. THey don't try to live unnatural lives outside their indiginous territory. Only humans have made their way(and the animals they stole to bring to other locations) across the globe, leaving nothing but trash, garbage, manure, toxins,in our wake. We have skin, they have fur. Leave them alone already!

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Daphne D. 1 year ago

"It takes more than 60 times as much energy to produce a fur coat from ranch-raised animals than it does to produce a fake fur. Plus, the waste produced on fur farms poisons our waterways. And don't forget … unlike faux fur, the “real thing” causes millions of animals to suffer every year."

Here's proof that just about everyone is jumping aboard the green bandwagon. In an advertising campaign launched late last year, the Fur Council of Canada touts fur-wearers as the new environmental activists. Apparently, killing small animals and turning them into tacky coats is right up there with calculating your carbon footprint.

This fuzzy thinking adds up to little more than greenwashing.

The Fur Council's “consumer reassurance” campaign-that's what it's called on their Web site-is nonsense. For starters, furs, like other animal skins, are loaded with caustic, even dangerous, chemicals to prevent them from rotting in the buyer's closet.

Before the finished product reaches the local fur salon, it is soaked in a bath of chemicals, then bleached, dyed or toned. The laundry list of chemicals used during the dressing process includes sulfuric acid, ammonium chloride, formaldehyde, lead acetate, sodium perborate and more. The alkalis, acids, chromates, bleaching agents, oils, salt and various compounds used in dyeing are potential skin irritants. In dye houses and dye kitchens, workers are also at risk of ingesting toxic dusts when salts of lead, copper and chromium, as well as possibly carcinogenic dyes, are weighed and cooked. One chemical used in dying, hexavalent chromium, is-according to the Environmental Protection Agency-a hazardous waste.

Does any of this sound eco-friendly to you?

You can add to this the fact that the majority of animals killed for fur today are raised on fur farms. Processing fur from farmed animals requires transporting feed to those animals; removing their waste; electricity for the housing and killing facilities; the use of pesticides, vaccines and antibiotics; transportation to remove the carcasses-you get the idea. In the United States alone, fur farms generate tens of thousands of tons of waste every year, including manure, shavings, straw and animal corpses. Many of those carcasses end up rotting in our landfills.

When all is said and done, producing a farmed-fur jacket requires 20 times the amount of energy needed to produce a faux fur.

Finally, any consideration of “environmentally friendly” claims must take into account the treatment of animals, since animals are a large part of the environment. Let's look at how the fur industry treats animals.

From the day they are born until the day they are killed, animals on fur farms lead lives of misery. Rabbits raised to become someone's fur collar are forced to live in their own waste in small, barren cages. Foxes, insane from stress and boredom, throw themselves repeatedly against the wire cage bars. Or they cower pitifully in the back of their cage, paralyzed with fear. The animals' deaths are painful and merciless. Many foxes are killed by being electrocuted; minks are cruelly gassed. Rabbits have their necks broken.

The fur industry's eco-friendly claims are nothing but a desperate attempt to convince the public that fur is something other than a cruel product for callous fashionistas. But by now, most of us have seen the video footage of animals being beaten, strangled or electrocuted for their pelts, and we're just not buying it.

The Canadian Fur Council thinks they are talking to idiots...well........people are laughing at you !! FUR COUNCIL IS A JOKE!!

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Barbara Schmitz 1 year ago

For more than 10 years, the fur industry has tried to greenwash itself by claiming that real fur garments are more environmentally friendly than fake furs. It takes nearly three times more energy, however, to produce a fur coat from animals as it does to produce a synthetic fur, according to a study by a transportationj research engineer at the University of Michigan. Included in his calculations were the energy costs of dkinning, pelt drying, transportation, processing, and manufacture of real trapped-fur garments.

Much of this energy is derived from petroleum products. Environmentally harmful chemicals, including chromium and formaldehyde, are used in the processing of real fur garments to keep them from rotting. In 1991, six New Jersey fur processors were fined more than $1 million for releasing toxic waste into the environment.

Far from being "natural, renewable resources," as the fur industry would love for us to believe, real fur products consume far more of our precious irreplaceable nergy resources than do those made from synthetic materials.

Simply put, real fur is not green!

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Monica 1 year ago

Fur is not green. Some have made comments that fur is simply using all of the animal - umm when was that last time anyone ate a "fox burger" or "mink sandwich" the meat from fur animals is not eaten - typically not even rabbit since it is a different breed that is raised for meat than is raised for fur.

Fur farms are like any other factory farm they produce lots of waste in a concentrated area - who wants too fertilze with mink manuer its not good for gardneing and the cost of transporting it off the farms to be used is cost-prohibitive.

Trapping also uses lots of fuel ...think about all the driving that is needed to go check the trap line. Not to mention all the other animals they catch in traps including endangered species. Do a google search for trapping and lynx in Maine and you will see that a lawsuit was just settled that verified the threat.

Finally modern fur production utilizes chromimum and formaldehyde to process fur to keep them from rotting --- Native Americans did not do this.

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Trappers say they get upset when people use oil and or wear fake fur?
And again look trappers burn far more gasoline than the average person and use petro-based material for their sets even use petroleum based wax for their traps.................... That is not all.
Some trappers even WORK FOR OIL COMPANIES and their fellow say nothing against those terrorist dictating polluters known as oil companies. His email and name are masked.
It is forbidden for email to be displayed on this Domain, It is strictly against my rules.

Check out this trapper who works in a oil related job???? Now he will say fake furs are made of petroleum.
LOL!!!!!! What his job do???? Pollutes the Earth and responsible for most of the pollution today.
I'd rather wear a fake fur coat than working in a oil company which pollutes more than a fake fur coat.!
Actually is not my style to wear fake fur nor real.
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Messages from trappers that works in oil and or oil based companies..
I bet this idiot will say faux-furs is made from petroleum based chemicals etc. Look at his job, he works to move drilling rigs What does pollute the most? fake furs or burning gasoline to move drilling rigs which are mainly responsible for contamination, pollution and global warming. Their thing saying fur is green (red) is a lie to look good and brainwash the public with pure lies and ignorance (stupidity).
#1913470 - Today at 08:23 AM Re: What do you do.... [ Re: R**********k ]
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Loc: Utah
I work for a trucking company that moves drilling rigs.
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Another right-wing petrol hugger. I bet hes saying fake-furs is made out of oil but LOL look at his job. Putting oil pipes and disturbing wildlife habitat with that kind of useless crap. I bet or more like sure he is a ANWR driller supporter.
#1913816 - Today at 11:28 AM Re: What do you do.... [ Re: Ohbuyer ]
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Registered: 12/27/09
Posts: 374
Loc: NE, Utah
I am a fly fishing guide, big game hunting guide, and I work in the oil fields.
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Chemical plants are another oil related thing because lots of chemicals like that comes from oil and I bet some goes into fake furs and real furs (preservative).
#1913933 - Today at 12:56 PM Re: What do you do.... [ Re: j m****s ]
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Registered: 01/04/07
Posts: 1238
Loc: Louisiana
safety manager in a chemical plant
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He surely love to say fake-furs is made out of oil while that oil for fake furs, cars and etc comes from him. Why are trappers such dictators that you cannot wear fake furs but some of them provide the resources for those coats?
#1914211 - Today at 03:13 PM Re: What do you do.... [ Re: C***s S****s ]
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Registered: 11/07/09
Posts: 364
Loc: Red Deer, AB. Canada
I work for a US company in northern Alberta Canada, run a nitrogen pumper servicing oil and gas wells, 21on 7 days off, oh and I drive a Kenworth........D**e
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Now he is giving farmers bad names. Many farmers tries to use environmentally friendly based fertilizers. Look at this idiot selling chemicals which are petroleum based and majorily responsible for the pollution in our drinking water and soil and also causing wildlife such as otter to slowly becomes sick and having trouble to reproduce. This just shows trappers do NOT care for the environment and are very rightwings. They are just hicks, ignorant (stupid), use religion lies as science and bunch of global warmist denials. ag does means Agriculture I bet.
#1914890 - 40 minutes 26 seconds ago Re: What do you do.... [ Re: T**********l ]
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Loc: NE Arkansas
I sell seed, fertilizer, and ag chemicals, buy and sell grain, and applicate fertilizer, oh and full time student.
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Check out this stupid hick claims to be a climatologist. He will show that all trappers are rightwing anti-wildlife,
anti-environmentalist and anti-Earth. If you're anti-environment you're anti-animal, anti-life, anti-caring for Earth.
This hick on Earthday will burn petroleum based products such as styrofoam which is as worst than burning plastics. I will not hide this hick's name so people can see who he is and hopefully the cop will hunt him down for doing illegal activities.
So that will prove that I am right that ALL trappers are animal haters and environment hater. They are all corrupted they cry about fake fur made of petroleum product, look at them they are no better they are burning petroleum based plastics, styrofoam etc, burning more gasoline. Those idiots have no clue that polluting hurts wildlife too. Means they hate wildlife.
Not just that they also hate their own children and other people from making them suffer by exposing them to pollution.
#1963825 - 04/22/10 01:31 PM .........................................earth Day
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Registered: 12/26/06
Loc: Anchoragua
anyone else going to participate in any of the whacko events??

Myself, I have been saving up a bunch of styrofoam cups and plates to burn tonight...while I turn on all my lights, and crank the heat up...
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Now this hick will use herbicide which are chemicals based and I am sure it even have some root to petroleum based crap.
The idiot below will cut down trees on purpose for wood.
As for the post from "Part Time" that I didn't even bother to put, he was saying "what is Earth day?" he doesn't know crap.
#1963839 - 04/22/10 01:42 PM Re: .........................................earth Day [ Re: Part Time ]
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Registered: 12/26/06
Loc: Stark County,Ohio
Heading out with my sprayer full of the most potent mix of 2-4-D ( well actually straight from the the 5 gallon container) to spray all the Multiflora Rose and Poison Ivy i can find.
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#1963842 - 04/22/10 01:45 PM Re: .........................................earth Day [ Re: Ohbuyer ]
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Registered: 01/21/09
Loc: The Osage, Oklahoma
I'm cutting down trees for next winter's firewood.
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This stupid ass hick is giving trappers bad names and showing they all hate Earth. If you hate Earth and pollute it you hate animals and even your children by default.
#1963847 - 04/22/10 01:51 PM Re: .........................................earth Day [ Re: Cattrap ]
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Registered: 09/30/08
Loc: ohio
i filled up my truck, gonna go mow the yard, then burn what's left of my christmas tree
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This walking trash can should be disposed in a bin instead and Earth would be a much cleaner place.
#1963849 - 04/22/10 01:52 PM Re: .........................................earth Day [ Re: ohhelper ]
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Registered: 12/26/06
Loc: Anchoragua
If I could find any six pack rings i would go throw them in the ocean...
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Check out this horrible mother she is that sick woman. She is admiting she is against cars running on cleaner oil such as French fry oils. Restaurants are struggling to get rid of that oil so what is better, throw it away or use for cleaner fuels?.
Paula is more poisoning her kids with toxines and petroleum based chemicals. I bet if her sons get cancer in the future she will realized if she has the brain that she was responsible for cause of cancer to her son. That show what kind of a horrible mother she is and her kids should be placed in a foster home and away from this dangerous and horrible mother poisoning her kids with ignorance (stupidity).
Her son is trying to be green but that bad mother Paula is disrespecting her own son. Yes unplugging the carbon detector was a little off hands. Those things barely use power. You don't need to unplug the tv etc only not turning it on.
#1963850 - 04/22/10 01:53 PM Re: .........................................earth Day [ Re: Part Time ]
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Registered: 07/27/09
Loc: Corydon, IN
you are supposed to turn your lights off for an hours 8pm or somthing like that here in IN. My son came home so full of BS yesterday I thought I was going to vomit. Talking about cars running off french fry oil, and mowing the grass in the early am and turning off your lights and walking ect. He tried to extrapulate the mowing the grass to why he should not have to do his choores when he gets off of school...... They are poisning our kids.
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Posts below Paula as similar crap and some being against anti-Environments blah blah blah.
#1965433 - Yesterday at 04:57 PM Re: .........................................earth Day [ Re: Hupurest ]
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chris gambill
Registered: 01/04/07
Loc: Indiana
I sure dont want to go off on a rant...but I am sure not getting the anti-consevation posts. Great to be advocating pollution, dumping trash, and wasting resources. Really makes us look like an educated lot. Earth Day is really about teaching young ones to be conservation conscious. Certainly some of the things suggested are not likely to substantially conserve our planet. However it starts to get kids to think. We see posts all the times trashing people who waste fur etc. I think the word is hypocrisy.
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Even if they make jokes is still not funny but their history of corruption and insulting environmentallists means they must be doing it that is no coincidence. Economy is not important compare to the environment. If the environment destabalize from all the pollution it will severely harm the economy in long terms, which it would cause billions even trillions in damage. Those hicks don't care about the long terms.
#1965466 - Yesterday at 05:23 PM Re: .........................................earth Day [ Re: c***s g*****l ]
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tlessard
Registered: 12/16/07
Loc: South Central Alaska

Originally Posted By: c***s g*****l
I sure dont want to go off on a rant...but I am sure not getting the anti-consevation posts. Great to be advocating pollution, dumping trash, and wasting resources. Really makes us look like an educated lot. Earth Day is really about teaching young ones to be conservation conscious. Certainly some of the things suggested are not likely to substantially conserve our planet. However it starts to get kids to think. We see posts all the times trashing people who waste fur etc. I think the word is hypocrisy.

Not speaking for others but I read a lot of sarcasm in those posts.
The green movement is by and large a vehicle for increased regulation and strangulation of our economy and liberties. Many times it is a front, just as HSUS is a front. Ever hear of a 'watermelon'? If not you need to do a little more investigating into the origins and direction of the whole 'movement'.
Therefore I see those sarcastic remarks as being quite educated and informed.
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Another hick will say fake fur harms the environment, look at his job for a minute.
#1964648 - 04/22/10 10:18 PM Re: What do you do.... [ Re: d********7 ]
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Eric Cottrel
Registered: 12/23/06
Loc: Minden, La///Cuidad del Carmen...
I'm a crane operator on a jack up drilling rig in the Southern Bay of Campeche, about 50 miles offshore of Cuidad del Carmen, Mexico.
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I bet this hick will say fake fur is made of petroleum products and harms the environment. Look at his job, working in oil field and oil companies. I am 100% sure his oil goes to fakefur makers.
#1967873 - Today at 04:07 PM Re: What do you do.... [ Re: D.R.H****e ]
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Bob
Registered: 01/09/07
Loc: Montana
I work in the oil field, building the pumping units and tanks and treaters after the drillin rig gets done. Basically my job is to build and plumb everything needed to pump, seperate, and store oil, gas and water from the ground. Then if any of it breaks I come in and fix it.

My job title is roustabout, but if you look it up it means uneducated laborer lol.
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Check out this tar hugging pro-oiler. Oil worker are among the worst polluter, bad people and liars plus are profiters. I bet lots of "his oil" ends up in fake and real fur companies. I bet he will cry and say fake fur is made of oil, Check out where this hick works for?. large percentage of oil companies probably 100% of them illegally dump chemicals and plus they are among the worst liar and unorganized losers. I hate all oil workers as much as animal haters they are as worst as trappers, hunters and all those loser inbred uneducated hicks out there. Liars are the worst people on the face of Earth. I don't give a crap if is to feed their family or surviving, If example someone steal a store, works in the mafia, drug dealers, selling drugs but not doing it themselves to make money to feed their families they will say they are doing bad thing, but oil working and selling subtance abuse etc ITS THE SAME DAMN THING.. I'd rather starve than working for oil companies which are as worst than terrorist organization even worser. Is like doing bad things for surviving is just as bad as breaking the law.
#2029926 - 06/15/10 10:57 PM Re: Why drill off shore? [ Re: O*e H*****e ]
o*********4 Offline
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Registered: 05/27/10
Loc: Oklahoma
I work in the oilfield and i just couldnt see myself doin anything else...but if all that happened it would put me and alotta people out of jobs. not to mention the economy would collapse

Edited by o*********4 ( 06/15/10 10:58 PM )
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Misc replies about real furs.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_are_the_disadvantages_of_fake_fur

Q: What are the disadvantages of fake fur?


A:
Fake fur may shed.

Currently, there are no faux furs that have been able to keep snow from melting and re-freezing on the fur's fiber filaments. This might be of concern if one chooses to wear a fur material rather than warmer totally synthetic garments while hiking, mountain climbing, skiing and other activities which are done in extreme conditions.[citation needed]

Fake fur is made of synthetic fibers, meaning that a chemical process is used in its manufacture which may create waste, or be non-biodegradable.

But real fur is not better!

Trapped fur uses 3.5 times more in total energy content than faux fur.


Ranched fur uses 15 times more energy than producing synthetic fur.

Animal fur and skin production cases serious air and water pollution.

More chemicals are needed for animal fur production to preserve the fabric from naturally decomposing: Ammonia, chromates, bleaching agents, coal tar derivatives, hydrogen peroxide, formaldehyde, sulphides and ranched fur animal feces are contaminating YOUR water!

The best thing one could do is not wear fur at all. Neither real or fake.

A 1979 study concluded that the energy consumption for the production of one coat made out of fake fur was 120 MBtu, compared to 433 MBtu for trapped animals and 7,965 MBtu for animals raised in fur farms.
Majority of trappers are right wings which means pro-oil, anti environment and they burn far more gasoline than the average person and wastes soo much energy compare to non trapper.
=====This will debunk further more of trapper's extreme corruption=====
This will probably kill trappers public image because it will show they are actually far more pro-oil than AR who endorse fake furs and show trappers uses far more oil aside huge gasoline consumption to check their set. They avocat big oils.
Means they avocat fake furs without wearing it, if you're against fake fur means you should be against oil or not supporting or working for oil. But if they are against fake furs but defending the oil companies means they are not against the making of fake fur only against wearing it. Making it is far worst than wearing it. Even real fur is worst than fake fur because all the chemicals they put in. Commercial tanners don't use salt, mineral oils etc, they use the cheap stuff, petroleum based trash, Salt, mineral oil etc is to temporally preserve the hide until it reaches the tanner and they put the big petro-based preservatives and burn lots of gasoline to carry it to the stores. So it shows trappers are big oil lovers.

Q:|Why they cry about fake fur made from oil/petroleum product aren't they green?
A: They are totally far from green, they just say this crap to defend fur. Nearly 100% trappers are very pro-oil rightwings
hicks most of them will still defend the BP after the spill. BP has among the worst environment record ever and some
of those loser hicks still work there..
Q: What kind of worst record they have?
A: BP was named by Mother Jones Magazine, an investigative journal that "exposes the evils of the corporate world, the
government, and the mainstream media", as one of the ten worst corporations in both 2001 and 2005 based on its
environmental and human rights records. In 1991 BP was cited as the most polluting company in the US based on EPA
toxic release data. BP has been charged with burning polluted gases at its Ohio refinery (for which it was fined
$1.7 million), and in July 2000 BP paid a $10 million fine to the EPA for its management of its US refineries. According
to PIRG research, between January 1997 and March 1998, BP was responsible for 104 oil spills. BP patented the
Dracone Barge to aid in oil spill clean-ups across the world.
Q: Aren't oil company just as bad as terrorism?
A: Oil companies ARE terrorist organizations, they try to control the world, abuse their powers, dump illegal chemicals in
the water, They even murder a man who discovered an alternative fuel because they believed the man could deeply
hurt oil companie even putting them out of business which should happen, they prevent cleaner alternative vehicles
from becoming popular, electric cars existence been around for over 100 years. Oil terrorist scumbags are for the
money they will do things even illegal thing to prevent from going out of business, people like that I don't respect them,
they don't care about what you and your children breath, they don't care about our health, they don't give a crap about wildlife and the future of humanity. They are even worser than terrorism. I will say that straight up.. Any oil worker
who dies in accidents they deserve it for their working with terrorist group who dump and burn chemicals illegally in the
environment and threaten endangered species habitats to drill. I don't give a crap about ANY one working there. I wish
them the worst even to them, I have no guilt, sympathy no remorse for those subhuman Earth hating scum bag. I don't
give a crap about their family. After the BP disaster every Oil worker EVEN family member or not are on my deep red
list. They are all my arch-enemies and I will not respect them because all companies do illegal stuff and abuse their
powers I totally and very have no respect toward those corrupted and scum of the Earth and they deserve the worst.
Good news is I don't have any known family member working for those terrorist groups.
Q: Aren't they trying to feed their family?
A: Aren't drug dealer, thieve, terrorism, mafia, biker gang and illegal sellers trying to feed their family? Really that is the
stupidest lamest question ever. There are good and bad job. If you work for the police, FBI, furniture store that's good.
If you work for tobacco company, oil company, drug mafia, biker gang, terrorists, thieve etc that is bad, you're a crook and a lowlife to me. People who work on oil company / field are all losers, lowlife and just want more money by making
other suffer, people who make me suffer by forcing me to breathe polluants can go screw themselves and I wish all of
them to die from an horrible job related accident for their evil act against humanity. Why drug dealers, Illegal sellers
as long no poaching involve goes out of business cuz of the police raids, mass arrestments, jailing time etc, they lose
their ONLY job and their family will starve to death because they are not capable of working on something else but oil
doesn't, is because of corruption. Look some countries are filthy rich because of drugs like Columbia, drugs generate
money for their economy. I am not trying avocat for drug dealers or to defend drugs I am very anti-drug in any forms, I
am saying that for an example, some nation get rich from drugs. Why drug sellers who is trying to make an income and
feed their family get busted? Many don't do drugs on their own, buyer is their decisions to be idiots and buy it to kill
themselves. Tobacco kills far more people than hard drugs, the law say because hard drugs are addictive and makes
people stoned and violent.. Well look at alcohol it is addictive, cause far more deaths than drugs, makes people violent, destroy families and more, alcohol do far more damage compare to hard drugs. As I say we live in a money addicted
corrupted society. Oil companies and worker are just worst as terrorism (which they are), mafia, murderers and worst
than drug addicts, tobacco workers and other terrorist groups. People like that are bad people and I wish them the
worst for being bad people and making the worst suffer in the name of greed, money, corruption and anti-environment.
People who make us suffer by making people live on a hostile planet, threaten all life deserves to die by horrible job
related accidents because they are terrorists, dictators, criminal against humanity and nature. Bad people must be
punished for their actions, I don't give a rat ass if their family starve why should I care about people I have never met?
people responsible to make the world suffer from their job. If I make something that threaten humanity to feed my
family people say I'll be a terrorist, a criminal against humanity, dr.evil etc, They would be right about it but why those
foolish losers doesn't say nothing about oil companies when they threaten humanity, dictate us and refuse
alternatives to thrive?. It's simple because they are bad people, bad people need to be punished and suffer from it.
We have one chance, one planet and they are threatening to take it away from us, people like that, deserves every bad
thing in existance and even worst than AIDS, cancer, ebola, Anthrax, H1N1, crippling arthritis. They are abomination
against humanity, probably from those religious folk views they are anti-Christ. To me they are terrorist and crooks.
Check this loser inbred hick, just as worst than that whore Sarah Palin who will still do the unsafe deep well drilling after that catastrophic spill disaster. People avocating BP I wish them the worst and I hope he gets an oil related accident.
I have totally zero respect for criminal against mother of nature and humanity, they are bad people, bad people deserve bad things to happen to them. Obama is doing the right thing by putting a delay. Or would be better a permanent ban on deep drilling because it will never be safe, there was many disasters happened with deep drilling, oil terrorist scum bags said they have the ways to fix it fast but they are full of crap, they lie to get away. Here is a video from Enigmahood explaining about those terroristic BP scum of the Earth pigs.

#2069681 - 07/21/10 10:26 PM Deep Well Drilling Moratorium
Drew 33 Offline
trapper

Registered: 05/04/10
Loc: Louisiana
I do not speak for all Louisianian's but I can not explain in words how much I disagree with the moratorium the Fed Government is trying to pass. It is already had an effect on my family. My cousin Kenneth, was just notified that his company will be going to 7 day on 7 days off. This means that he will be making one third less of what he has made for 14 years. Thank you Obama Administration. I am wondering what the rest of T-man feels about the Drilling Moratorium.
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#2069693 - 07/21/10 10:30 PM Re: Deep Well Drilling Moratorium [ Re: Drew 33 ]
Drew 33 Offline
trapper

Registered: 05/04/10
Loc: Louisiana
oops, I meant to put this in trap talk.
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Those BP hicks loser have among the world's worst environment records ever, they will never do safe ways to drill. Best ways is don't deep drill AT ALL. Even better ways is switch to alternative energy and while the alt energies are in the making process using the last reserves (in the big white tanks) will last us 2-4 years or so.
#2069909 - Yesterday at 08:01 AM Re: Deep Well Drilling Moratorium [ Re: Drew 33 ]
t********y Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/23/06
Loc: NE Iowa
Well Drew I feel sorry for your cousins decline in hours, but if companys like BP are going around drilling unsafely, then some thing has to be done. Its going to take years and alot of money to clean this mess up, we surely don't need another leak to deal with. Just my 2 cents worth,R*y
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Now check out this inbred hick loser redneck defending big oils after the disaster, he doesn't want drilling to stop.
#2069926 - Yesterday at 08:15 AM Re: Deep Well Drilling Moratorium [ Re: t********y ]
corky Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/29/06
Loc: Three Lakes,WI 58
There are tens (maybe hundreds) of thousands of rigs in the gulf. While tragic, this is only the second major problem in decades and now they are much more knowledgeable in how to fix it should it ever occur again. More oversight, better response plan yes, stop drilling no.
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Check this idiot he is just as worst than Hitler. Great lake are our drinking water supply known as the fresh water seas.
He is endorsing oil terroristic scums to drill there so a spill can occur and make our very limited fresh water supplies to get polluted? What a loser T-rex he is.
#2069937 - Yesterday at 08:24 AM Re: Deep Well Drilling Moratorium [ Re: corky ]
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trapper

Registered: 12/24/06
Loc: Near Yuppieville, MN
I say move all those drilling rigs up to the Great Lakes.
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#2069940 - Yesterday at 08:26 AM Re: Deep Well Drilling Moratorium [ Re: T-Rex ]
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Cletis Richards
Registered: 12/23/06
Loc: SW MO Carthage
Do you trust the present Administration.....hidden agenda...cap and trade????.carbon tax???????
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Hes not a warrior hes an idiot saying irrelevant crap, BP spill is a serious disaster and this hick makes joke?? WTF is wrong with this brain-deaded money-hugging moron?. Yes they should put a moratorium on the toyota problems. More putting a permanent ban on trapping for its uselessness and endangering species etc. Plus putting BP out of business and giving severe criminal charges to the founders, leaders and tossing all its workers to jail for their act of working with companies that has the world's worst human rights record and worst environment records.
#2069946 - Yesterday at 08:30 AM Re: Deep Well Drilling Moratorium [ Re: t********y ]
warrior Offline
trapper

Registered: 01/28/07
Loc: Georgia
Originally Posted By: t********y
Well Drew I feel sorry for your cousins decline in hours, but if companys like BP are going around drilling unsafely, then some thing has to be done. Its going to take years and alot of money to clean this mess up, we surely don't need another leak to deal with. Just my 2 cents worth,R*y


R*y, that's akin to putting a moratorium on all trapping until we figure out how the trapper caught a dog and how the clean up the mess and prevent non targets in the future.

Or how about a moratorium on all driving until we figure out this toyota recall mess.

Let's think this through rather than just doing the knee jerk reaction.
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#2070015 - Yesterday at 09:16 AM Re: Deep Well Drilling Moratorium [ Re: T-Rex ]
m************z Offline
trapper

Registered: 11/04/08
Loc: Cleveland IL
Originally Posted By: T-Rex
I say move all those drilling rigs up to the Great Lakes.


LOL,those Chicagon's would never have it!
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#2070022 - Yesterday at 09:19 AM Re: Deep Well Drilling Moratorium [ Re: m************z ]
m************z Offline
trapper

Registered: 11/04/08
Loc: Cleveland IL
The moritorium will be lifted when it is assured this wont happen again.Thats the bottum line like it or not.In the mean time your causin might have to find some different work to fill in,its nothing new most people will find there self in that possition at least once in there life over something.
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I wonder if he trusted George W Bush and Dick chenney when they were at the white house?. What about if a right wing president is in the white house in the future. Will he trust him/her?
#2070031 - Yesterday at 09:26 AM Re: Deep Well Drilling Moratorium [ Re: m************z ]
V******r Offline
trapper
VAcooner
Registered: 05/16/10
Loc: Farmville, Virginia
I don't trust a thing that anyone says in the White House. The moratorium is Obama's way of "putting his foot down." AKA "getting media attention."
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#2070040 - Yesterday at 09:32 AM Re: Deep Well Drilling Moratorium [ Re: V******r ]
m************z Offline
trapper

Registered: 11/04/08
Loc: Cleveland IL
[quote=V******r]I don't trust a thing that anyone says in the White House. The moratorium is Obama's way of "putting his foot down." AKA "getting media attention." [/quot

I dont blame ya,but Obama will walk out of the white house as grey headed as the rest and the moritorium will be lifted.
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This hick is more of the idiot. Who care about 55,000 jobs. What is better, endangering the health of billions from a few jobs or ending those jobs to save the live of billions?. I'd choose 2. Oil drillers are terrorist scum subhumans and they are better off on the street than destroying humanity and wildlife. Furkiller is a loser who hug Sarah Palin's fat republican creationism fools and idolize this braindead witch who doesn't even know if Africa is a country or a continent. Spill will NEVER be cleaned up. There are still oil ooze under rocks from the 1989 spill. It will stay there for hundreds even thousands of years.
#2070105 - Yesterday at 10:17 AM Re: Deep Well Drilling Moratorium [ Re: m************z ]
furkiller Offline
trapper

Registered: 01/04/07
Loc: Louisiana
I can speak for Louisianans as I live and work here. If the ban stays in place, our govenor says it will cost 55,000 jobs. Not just oil field wokers effected. Supply companies, resturants and hotels along the coast.... Obama is an idiot. Ony an idiot would be against drilling as it is a way of life here along the coast. This spill will be cleaned up and we will move on. Drill baby drill...
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Like he say how many jobs were lost because of the LA. spill. As for the BP spill I'm no avocate for fisherman but many fisherman lost their jobs because of the spill. Tourism generate like billions and they were hurt, beachmen probably put on hold or lost their lifeguarding jobs. what is better putting oil worker out of business or putting more jobs out of business?
#2070142 - Yesterday at 10:38 AM Re: Deep Well Drilling Moratorium [ Re: furkiller ]
m************z Offline
trapper

Registered: 11/04/08
Loc: Cleveland IL
Originally Posted By: furkiller
I can speak for Louisianans as I live and work here. If the ban stays in place, our govenor says it will cost 55,000 jobs. Not just oil field wokers effected. Supply companies, resturants and hotels along the coast.... Obama is an idiot. Ony an idiot would be against drilling as it is a way of life here along the coast. This spill will be cleaned up and we will move on. Drill baby drill...


How many jobs where lost because of the spill in LA?
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I bet this top hick is trying to defend those terrorist BP losers. Generated cleaning jobs are TEMPORALY. Once is cleaned those jobs will end. How much money did USA lost from spill?. Perhaps billions but in long terms probably will total of 1-3 trillions of dollars even put BP out of business turn them into smaller companies. BP should go out of business and face criminal charges and I don't give a rat crap if those hick loser workers endup jobless they deserve it for doing a stupid move from working with a corrupted companie that violate human rights, worst environment records and responsible for over 100 spills and more problematic disasters.
#2070233 - Yesterday at 11:39 AM Re: Deep Well Drilling Moratorium [ Re: m************z ]
Top Jimmy Offline
"Assistant Speling Zcar"

Registered: 12/23/06
Loc: Alaska, USA
Originally Posted By: m************z
Originally Posted By: furkiller
I can speak for Louisianans as I live and work here. If the ban stays in place, our govenor says it will cost 55,000 jobs. Not just oil field wokers effected. Supply companies, resturants and hotels along the coast.... Obama is an idiot. Ony an idiot would be against drilling as it is a way of life here along the coast. This spill will be cleaned up and we will move on. Drill baby drill...


How many jobs where lost because of the spill in LA?


And how many were created to clean it up?

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Just like most inbred right-wing religious hicks they care about $$$$$$$$ and don't giva crap about our future, children's health, your health, wildlife's future even endangered species future. They are profiters, terrorist organizations the BP.
#2070240 - Yesterday at 11:49 AM Re: Deep Well Drilling Moratorium [ Re: corky ]
p*******u Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/23/06
Loc: Hubert NC 35
Originally Posted By: corky
There are tens (maybe hundreds) of thousands of rigs in the gulf. While tragic, this is only the second major problem in decades and now they are much more knowledgeable in how to fix it should it ever occur again. More oversight, better response plan yes, stop drilling no.


...ummmm, let's see, maybe only takes a couple of incidents of this magnitude before it becomes obvious the industry is jacked up and could permantly screw the environment. Unforutanate how some don't care about that and only care about $$$$$$$.
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Check out how stupid this OLD blindeye is. He doesn't even read before posting. BP has the world's worst record ever. If a tidal wave happens knock all those rigs it will be the worst disaster in existence. This hick is too stupid to realize that 1 rig cause the worst disaster in history and they are soo hard to block the leak. It is not guarantee this plug will hold for long.
#2070274 - Yesterday at 12:19 PM Re: Deep Well Drilling Moratorium [ Re: p*******u ]
Ole Hawkeye Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/25/06
Loc: Oregon
Originally Posted By: p*******u
Originally Posted By: corky
There are tens (maybe hundreds) of thousands of rigs in the gulf. While tragic, this is only the second major problem in decades and now they are much more knowledgeable in how to fix it should it ever occur again. More oversight, better response plan yes, stop drilling no.

...ummmm, let's see, maybe only takes a couple of incidents of this magnitude before it becomes obvious the industry is jacked up and could permantly screw the environment. Unforutanate how some don't care about that and only care about $$$$$$$.


Tens of thousands of rigs and only 2 major oil spills and you think the industry is jacked up? I would call that a pretty good safety record in any industry.
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It is soo dumb to do deep drilling when is never save. They shouldn't drill in water at all because water conduct oil and expands very fast compare to ground. Best way is after all this they shouldn't drill AT ALL. There are alternatives but people are a bunch of sleezy lazy lardo money loving parasites to seek for alternative fuels. We have them but we wont use it.
#2070315 - Yesterday at 01:13 PM Re: Deep Well Drilling Moratorium [ Re: Ole Hawkeye ]
P******t Offline
trapper

Registered: 06/12/08
Loc: Nebraska
Instead of saying no more deep wells; the best solution would be to let them drill in shallower water where it is easier and safer to drill!!!! When the very rare accident happens it could at least be fixed in a much more timely manner. This will help lessen the environmental impact greatly!!

The whole idea of making them drill at those depths is just plain stupid to start with.

Edited by P******t ( Yesterday at 01:14 PM )
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And again this idiotic inbred loser hick don't give a crap about Earth nor wildlife. It wont be ok. this one will take 100 year even more to clean. The 1989 spill is NOT completely cleaned there are still slimy tar under rocks, mud and dirt.
#2070316 - Yesterday at 01:14 PM Re: Deep Well Drilling Moratorium [ Re: Ole Hawkeye ]
furkiller Offline
trapper

Registered: 01/04/07
Loc: Louisiana
Pass Thru, Just answer me this, if we dont drill here, where you gonna get your oil? You in favor of being even more dependant on foriegn oil? You aint got a clue. Does any one know this person? You sound like an anti.Hawk is right. Literally tens of thousands of wellls drilled in the gulf and 2 spills. We will clean this one up like the last one and continue shrimping and crabbing.... Stop the insanity , its gonna be ok.
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#2070356 - Yesterday at 01:33 PM Re: Deep Well Drilling Moratorium [ Re: furkiller ]
B****E Offline
trapper
BuckNE
Registered: 12/22/06
Loc: Southeast Nebraska
My problem with the moratorium is that it appears to be based on just some arbitrary time limit thrown out there. Where did they get 6 months? What was the basis for the moratorium? What are they doing in the meantime to study safety on the other rigs already out there? If there is a safety review ongoing, why will it take 6 months? Who decided a safety review would take 6 months? How did he come up with that number? Is there even a safety review being performed? Who is doing it? What have they found so far? Are problems they've found while doing the safety review already fixed?

Just seems to me the moratorium isn't based on anything other than politics. Somebody pulled a 6 month moratorium out of his butt and fed it to the people of Louisiana without providing any basis for it.
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#2070388 - Yesterday at 01:54 PM Re: Deep Well Drilling Moratorium [ Re: B****E ]
H******t Offline
"climatologist"
Hupurest
Registered: 12/26/06
Loc: Anchoragua
Originally Posted By: B****E
Just seems to me the moratorium isn't based on anything other than politics. Somebody pulled a 6 month moratorium out of his butt and fed it to the people of Louisiana without providing any basis for it.


Ta Daaaaaa.....


think of all the work that is now either behind or not going to happen...

They are NOT drilling in AK, like they finally got the go ahead to do...
had everything in place, and got a wait a minute....

and since they won't let them drill on land, in ANWR, in shallow water, they forced them out into these deep areas....
and when ship happens, well it happens big....

Politicans should be drug int he streets and shot.
and replaced with random folks, like the draft...
people over 30, with jobs, who pay federal income tax...
draw names.... when your term is up,
see ya...
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This moron is pro-oil and he is showing trappers are anti-environment. That fur is environmentally friendly is pure bull.
#2477340 - 03/01/11 01:36 PM Re: Oil over $100 a barrel ........ [ Re: A***r ]
T******7 Offline
trapper
Trapper7
Registered: 12/27/06
Loc: Rice, MN
When will America wake up, build more refineries, and start drilling all the oil we have on our own soil, so we can stop being held hostage by foreign oil?
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This right wing hick is proving that trappers are pro-oil and that fur is green thing is pure BS. Is the lamest excuse they use to get away and make profit. In fact fur is not green it uses a lot of enegy to harvest it, produce it and ship it. Far more energy than fake fur. Making more refineries will not drop the price. There been more made and price didn't drop it rose instead. Those inferior beings doesn't realize that oil is LIMITED. With the broken piece of crap system we have from shipping oil to other countries it doesn't help at all because if there is a political turmoil or wars like Libya etc the prices will go up. In Canada most of the oil comes from Venezuela. I don't care if the price goes up because I don't drive. Maybe it has benefit such as forcing people to grow a brain and think of finding ways for more alternative fuel and energy sources.
#2477360 - 03/01/11 01:49 PM Re: Oil over $100 a barrel ........ [ Re: A***r ]
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Trapper7
Registered: 12/27/06
Loc: Rice, MN
It's good that they are drilling there, but we need to build more refineries. That's one of our problems, not enough refineries.

I elk hunt in NW Colorado on a 15,000 acre ranch. The rancher has oil wells on the ranch. He said all the oil that's mined there gets shipped to Canada to be refined because we don't have enough refineries in the US to handle it. Then we buy it back from Canada. Really smart, huh?
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Exacly drilling doesn't have anything to do with the prices. The broken pieces of crap system we have is global market. If one country get problems such as war, political turmoils and terrorist blowing up oil companies it will rise the price. 15 years ago the oil prices in Canada was around 60.0-70.0 a liter. 80s was considered expensive like today 110.0 was considered overpriced. Sometime it can go as high as almost 140.0 a liter.
#2477376 - 03/01/11 01:55 PM Re: Oil over $100 a barrel ........ [ Re: A***r ]
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sgs
Registered: 11/10/09
Loc: NH
Oil is sold on the global market. Where they drill for it really doesn't have anything to do with the price.
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The idiot he quoted who's a pro-oil never learned that more drilling means more chance of serious environmental disasters.
BP spill means it would wake up those morons and make us more aware that oil is bad and we need to move to alternative energy sources. We have the alternative energy. It existed since the late 1800s since the late 19th century. But man with their selfish greed view they are for the money not the environment. Oil doesn't generate money for the economy it takes away. It may sound we get richer from oil but natural disasters from climate change takes all that profit away. Oil will temporaly give us money until global warming gets worst and it causes billions even trillions in damage. The money generating ratios is negative. It takes more than generating more.
#2477383 - 03/01/11 01:57 PM Re: Oil over $100 a barrel ........ [ Re: T******7 ]
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Otis
Registered: 11/01/10
Loc: Watertown, SD
Originally Posted By: T******7
When will America wake up, build more refineries, and start drilling all the oil we have on our own soil, so we can stop being held hostage by foreign oil?


Because we'd rather not have another BP oil spill every year somewhere. Oil companies make messes everywhere they go. We just don't hear about most of them because they don't happen here.
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This pro-oil right-wing fascist has no clue what he is talking about. He will never learn that more refineries has a NEGATIVE impact for the environment because he is soo inferior. More inferior than a normal human being. It wont boost the economy forever, wait until another natural disaster from climate change and it will show a huge drop in the economy. Drilling will NOT drop the gas prices. There been new drilling when the prices were going up. Did it drop? NO. It stayed up.
Who give a crap about those new jobs, the environment is more important that having more oilman terrorist who dictate us and prevent us from switching to alternative energy. They are all idiots. They don't just harm themselves alone they harm everything including wildlife, you and me. All those worker are idiots and doesn't care about Earth, they are manhater and naturehater, any accidents occurs at the oil companie and resulting in death. I don't give a crap and I have no remorse for terrorists screw them all, I feel nothing for them. They harm all of us with their pollution so I wish them dead.
#2477417 - 03/01/11 02:10 PM Re: Oil over $100 a barrel ........ [ Re: A***r ]
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Trapper7
Registered: 12/27/06
Loc: Rice, MN
If they drill it here and it stays here, it does have an effect on the price of gasoline.

Oil spills that occur in the ocean are devastating. Ones that occur on land aren't and are rare. It's worth the risk to drill on land. It would be a huge boost to the economy and create many jobs.
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This prove the further hypocrisy of trappers. They bash at fake fur which are made from petroleum products while they are no better. Look just for newly bought traps they use oils, tar and other petroleum products. Also they dip their traps into wax which are also petroleum products. Now the removal of that oil. Some may use chemicals such as paint thinner etc while some may use lesser toxic chemicals but many will use petroleum based chemicals to both remove thick tar and or to oil the traps to prevent them for rusting to the point they become shocked (unable to function properly). Trappers are very egoistical stereotype people who finds other people to blame and or preach. So trapping pollutes more than I thought. Fake furs are less toxic compare to the energy it requires to trap such as a lot of gasoline, oil, washing traps in dishwasher to get the oil off of it and the oil in the draining pipes ends up back to our river and or lakes. The ratios between fake fur and trapping are way unbalanced. Fake fur still uses petroleum product but less than real fur production. Real fur takes soo much energy and PETROLEUM products to gather / produce and ship. Most of these inbred hicks are right-wing which means pro-oil but they are too hypocrite and inbred to admit it. Not all posts from that thread are added only the pro-oil one.
#2533631 - 04/05/11 05:38 PM What is it and how do I get it off
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Registered: 09/03/08
Loc: NC
Bought 10 traps last year and they have a coating on them similar to a light coat of tar. I don't know if it is formula one or what but I can't get it off. What is the chemical used to get this stuff off? It was on WAY TOO THICK.

HELP!!!!
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Acetone is mildly toxic. Acetone may pose a significant risk of oxygen depletion in aquatic systems due to the microbial activity consuming it. SO is not that environmentally friendly. It may not be carcinogen but it's bad for the environment.
A lot of paint thinners are oil-based and or other chemicals based so these hicks have no clue they are very hypocritical.
#2533639 - 04/05/11 05:41 PM Re: What is it and how do I get it off [ Re: b************5 ]
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foxx1
Registered: 12/10/08
Loc: so. minnesota
dip in actone paint thinner,@ soak
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Yes the gas you dip if probably the equivalent of a dozens of fake-fur coats.. HYPOCRITE.
#2533892 - 04/05/11 07:35 PM Re: What is it and how do I get it off [ Re: ~A*C~ ]
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Lufkin Trapper
Registered: 12/22/06
Loc: Lufkin, Tx
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Dip in gas and use a brush.
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Same for the above one. Stereotypical people and ignorants due to their inferiority. They will blame ARA for fake furs made of oil and claiming PETA are from oil companies which are NOT. So if PETA would be from oil then trappers which are big oil users would be PETA lovers while they hate them... HYPOCRITES. Those hicks are soo greedy and find other people that don't trap to blame their problems on. Fake furs are probably more environmentally friendly than real fur because it take less oil than real one. I do not advocate fake fur thought. Also and absolutely do NOT advocate for the real one either.
#2533997 - 04/05/11 08:38 PM Re: What is it and how do I get it off [ Re: b************5 ]
B***5 Offline
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BUD25
Registered: 12/26/08
Loc: southern Minnesota
gas it or sandblast it...
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I'm sure Break kleen possibly a brand of break cleaners are also petroleum and or other toxic chemicals based.
#2534027 - 04/05/11 08:59 PM Re: What is it and how do I get it off [ Re: b************5 ]
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Registered: 12/22/06
Loc: Montana
Soak in brake kleen worked for me....
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There we go another hypocrite .
#2534130 - 04/06/11 01:12 AM Re: What is it and how do I get it off [ Re: b************5 ]
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coop
Registered: 12/22/06
Loc: De
I had a few coilsprings I took completely apart and soaked in gas, then wire brushed. Easier to get in the tight places when they're apart. Never did like the stuff, and will not buy any used land traps that have been dipped...
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Yes agree with your cult member you dumb slave .
#2534176 - 04/06/11 04:03 AM Re: What is it and how do I get it off [ Re: b************5 ]
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Registered: 09/03/08
Loc: NC
I agree c**p. Lesson learned for me.
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